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Apr 29, 2014 - Best regards,. Ron Dragoo, PE. Senior Civil Engineer. City of Rancho Palos Verdes. 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard. Rancho Palos Verdes, CA ...








APRIL 29, 2014





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Ron Dragoo, Senior Engin~





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Palos Verdes Drive South is the only major east-west arterial across southern Rancho Palos Verdes. Palos Verdes Drive South is a primary access route for citizens and commuters traveling in and out of the City. Access to the City of Los Angeles, the port and Interstate 110 to the east is needed to facilitate those who commute to employment centers, visit RPV's many scenic destinations and to provide for the passage of emergency vehicles. This arterial crosses the Klondike Canyon, Portuguese Bend, and Abalone Cove Landslides where the roadway is subjected to the differential land movement of the three landslide areas. The point where Palos Verdes Drive South crosses the slip surface of the Portuguese Bend and Klondike Canyon Landslides is notable when driving in either direction, as the roadway veers toward the ocean at this location (See Attachment B Location Map). The deformation of the roadway surface has taken place over several years as the Portuguese Bend Landslide slips toward the ocean at a much faster rate than the Klondike Canyon Landslide. The land movement over time has resulted in the need to realign this section of roadway putting put the asphalt back within its right of way and to address a safety concern. To address this safety concern, the City Council authorized funding to construct the PVDS Roadway Realignment- East End project in the FY2013/14 budget. Additionally,


the FY 13/14 budget includes funds to construct a parking area in the vicinity of the PVDS roadway project to help alleviate the lack of available parking for folks that enter the preserve through the end of Crenshaw Blvd. in the Del Cerro neighborhood. To enable Staff to make a more informed decision regarding the location of the parking lot, and to provide an opportunity for the public to relay any ideas or concerns, Staff conducted two public informational meeting. The first meeting was held in October 2013 and the second in March 2014. Both meeting were well attended and comments received during the October meeting indicated that many opposed the installation of a parking lot along PVDS and a few opposed the roadway relocation project. Comments received during the March meeting indicated that many were opposed to the installation of a parking lot along PVDS, but none opposed realigning the east end of PVDS. Communication received from the public and notes taken during the meeting are attached to this memorandum (Attachment A).

DISCUSSION The roadway project is needed to address safety concerns caused by the landslide. The parking lot as initially configured was not well received by the public and accordingly Staff is not recommending proceeding with siting and building a parking lot in conjunction with the roadway project. Staff met in the field and reviewed possible locations to site the parking lot following the March public meeting. Attachment Bis a map that illustrates one possible location where the parking lot could be located. The land surface in this area is currently not broken or fissured due to landslide activity; however, the land is located in the landslide so movement is inevitable. Staff is planning to proceed and finalize the design for the roadway repairs. The parking lot will be studied further and public input will be sought prior to developing recommendations for the City Council to consider. The City's Recreation and Parks Department will lead the Gateway Parking Lot effort with support from the Community Development and Public Works Departments. The proposed Parking Lot project is included in the list of proposed uses of Capital Improvement Projects Reserve, which is attached to the FY 2014/15 Hybrid Zero-Based Budgeting menu staff report also on this evening's agenda.

CONCLUSIONS Receive and file this report.

FISCAL IMPACT Funding for a Gateway Parking Lot project will be included, for the City Council's consideration, in the draft FY2014-15 budget. Attachments:

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Public Meeting Comments Gateway Parking Lot Location Map


Attachment A


Public Meeting Comments and Questions as noted by Staff for Roadway Maintenance on PVDS in Portuguese Bend Project October 30, 2013

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> > Dewatering wells are definitely being considered, however new wells will likely be placed above the slide north of Burma Rd. initially. As time passes and movement slows, dewatering wells will be drilled closer to the road. This Fiscal Year the City is funding two new wells - one in Abalone Cove and one in Portuguese Bend. > > Ron Dragoo, PE > Senior Civil Engineer >City of Rancho Palos Verdes > 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard >Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 > (310) 544-5252 > > -----Original Message----> From: Jim York [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:31 PM >To: Ron Dragoo; Nadia Carrasco > Subject: PY Drive South roadway maintenance project > >The repositioning of the road appears to be a reasonable project. > > What is the status of adding dewatering wells to the area to slow the land movement? > >Jim York > > Sent from my iPad >



March 5, 2014 Public Workshop Comments PVDS Roadway Realignment - Gateway Parking Lot Tyson Schilz He is concerned that more mountain bikers will be attracted to the place and damage the natural landscape. Also, bringing more public will increase the pollution and trash at the bottom towards the ocean. He suggest to charge a parking fee. He is also concerned about people crossing the road to access the beach; this might cause accidents and therefore City would be involved in lawsuits.

Steve Cummins He agrees that safety is a primary concern. People will be crossing the road to go to the ocean and might get involved in accidents. Also, they might fall into the many existing fissures. This is a dangerous location for mountain bikers, hikers and fishermen. Parking lot will be costly to maintain. He brought to City Council attention that the road is currently on Bend Club's property.

Lynn Swank She recommends to talk to TSC; she would like to have crosswalks or flashing lights. Parking lot gravel would be better if it has a more natural color to blend in with the surroundings. Who would be responsible for picking up the trash, open & close the gates and restrooms?

Chris Del Moro He would like to have a more natural landscape. He is concerned with people crossing the road. Adding more parking spots is not going to relieve the problem at Del Cerro. Parking lot will bring "unwanted" public to party, trash and do drugs. He believes safety is being overlooked. He agrees that the road realignment is necessary. Fissures are a concern as well.

Al Edgerton He wants parking lot to help relieve parking at Del Cerro. People are traveling at high speeds on Crenshaw. Parking lot could help to reduce the traffic accidents along Crenshaw. If people park at Abalone Cove, they are going to want to cross PVDS to hike up to Del Cerro; this is a safety concern. He believes bikers and hikers would prefer to go up and cruise down; therefore the proposed parking lot would benefit both the public and the residents up in Del Cerro.

Oliver Hazard Agrees that Del Cerro gets crowded. Maybe the speed limit should be 35 mph instead of 40 mph for safety purposes. Ladera Linda parking is available. Road and proposed parking lot would be under big cracks. Adding a parking lot will add to the already high cost of PVDS. He is concerned with kids falling into the big cracks.


Jeanne Smolley Bringing people to the area might increase fire hazards. There is a lot of traffic and inviting more people is dangerous.

Eric Johnson (Geologist) There is a lot of vertical (2 11 -5 11 per year) and horizontal (1'-5' per year) movement where the new road and parking lot will be placed. 211 annual rotation will continue. Parking lot is not going to last; it will be a nuisance. Parking lot is being placed where the land moves the most. It will be costly to maintain. People should be guided to cross the road at a safer (further) point.

Michael Barth He is against the parking lot. He is aware of the problem at Del Cerro. Money will be wasted on parking lot. Ladera Linda parking exists, use it. There will be issues with fires, litter, drugs, vandalism, etc. More problems will be created instead of solutions; reconsider the issues. People will get hit by crossing the road.

Eva Cicoria She sympathizes with both sides Del Cerro and Portuguese Bend residents. Charge a fee to park and to limit the incoming visitors. Perhaps close Crenshaw after parking lot is in place? People will cross the road therefore a crosswalk is needed. Aesthetics is important. If money is not available then do not design it or start with a small parking lot. She is concerned with destroying the natural habitat. Restrooms are needed but no ugly portable potties.

Lucianna Molinari Public safety is a concern. She hikes the trails but they are difficult and dangerous in some areas. Southside area is dangerous (fissures). Hikers will be attracted by 44 spaces. People should be guided away from the shore. Parking lot maintenance cost should be taken into consideration.

Kim McCarthy There are more cyclist and hikers. With more parking more people will come and make it even less safe. She does not feel safe when walking alone for there are homeless people in the area.

Kathy Edgerton She supports the preserve. She welcomes the public but is getting out of hand at Crenshaw. Kathy is speaking for 120 homes HOA. She mentioned that despite the increase of visitors in the area there is no spike in crime therefore the parking lot crime concerns are unfounded. There is a hot line available for the residents and it has not being used so crime is not a problem.



David Leeper # 1 Roseapple Rd. Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 (310) 373-0715

City of Rancho Palos Verdes


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March 4, 2014 Nadia Carrasco, Public Works 30940 Hawthorne Bl. R.P.V., CA 90275 Re: Parking Lot with roadway realignment Dear Nadia, The proposed parking lot, associated with the roadway realignment of P.V. Dr. South, is a bad idea for the following reasons: 1) There is no way to prevent people from filling the parking lot with cars of people going to the beach, and people will save money by parking in the parking lot instead of the beach parking lot at Abalone cove, costing the city lost revenue. 2) The outhouse toilets will be hard to screen and not used much, due to the smell, and more people will use secluded spots in the trails instead, and leave more tissues and discarded underwear, as occurs now. 3) The Peninsula News, dated Feb. 20, 2014, top of page 1, lists the same problems with the Marymount parking lot as will occur in the proposed parking lot: noise, loud music, car alarms, smoking marihuana, drinking alcohol, drug taking, increase in fire hazard activity. Gas powered vehicles sometimes leak gas and catch on fire. Fires starting in or near the parking lot expose the city to liability for loss of people's homes and loss of lives and injuries. Occasional patrols will not help significantly, any more than patrols adequately mitigate problems in the current parking lot. Many people from the inner city bring large dogs, including pitbulls, and most of these dogs have no license, usually meaning no shots for any diseases, such as rabies. Signs will not help because patrols are too infrequent, and some kland user:s do not speak English.


vid Leeper


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David Leeper # 1 Roseapple Rd. Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 (310) 373-0715


March 10, 2014 Nadia Carrasco, Public Works 30940 Hawthorne Bl. R.P.V., CA 90275 Re: Parking Lot with roadway realignment Dear Nadia, The proposed parking lot, associated with the roadway realignment of P.V. Dr. South, is a bad idea for the following reasons: Older or poorly maintained gas powered vehicles, such as many of those used by inner city residents who come to use the landslide area I nature preserve, sometimes catch fire. Also, people smoke various things in and around their cars before walking. The area where the parking lot is proposed is in a dry brush, high fire hazard area. The city's attorneys may state that brush can be cleared and save the city from responsibility for fire damage to homes and injuries or deaths of people, but they might not consider the following facts that could be argued by victims of a wildfire starting near the proposed parking lot. Several years ago, the city caused grading of many acres of the lower landslide area, removing low vegetation, in the area of the proposed parking lot. This grading by the city caused much ground to be left bare, within an easy walk of the proposed parking lot. Where the ground was graded by the city, hundreds of acacia bushes, covering several acres, have since grown to about 20+ feet in height, making an acacia bush forest. Most of these bushes are dry and dead, except for the very tops. During a fire, the seeds of these bushes are known to catch fire and float to new areas and spread wildfires. The dead acacia bush branches are mostly too thick to walk through, but in some places narrow foot paths have been made to remote, hard to access areas, where people camp, rest, smoke, or have rendevous, leaving condoms and trash. Therefore, it would be safer if people from anywhere in Los Angeles County did not have parking available in the area around the proposed parking lot, to give easy access to ariyone, from anywhere, to this area around the proposed





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Nadia Carrasco Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:10 AM 'VIELKA SCHMID ORTEGA' RE: PVDS Project

Good Morning Ms. Schmid, Thank you for taking the time to submit your comments. We will be forwarding them to the City Council for consideration. Regards, Nadia Carrasco Assistant Engineer City of Rancho Palos Verdes Public Works Department Phone (310) 544-5333 Fax (31 OJ 544-5292 From: VI ELKA SCHMID ORTEGA [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:04 PM To: Nadia Carrasco Subject: PVDS Project

Hi Ms. Carrasco, Attached is a letter regarding the PVDS Roadway Realignment Project. The letter was signed by several neighbors of the project location and we would like our input to be heard by the City Council. Thanks for your help. Vielka Schmid



February 26th, 2014

Dear Council Members, As a member of the Seaview Community of Rancho Palos Verdes I am opposed to the Gateway Park Parking Lot Proposal. The land is to be preserved and protected. Parking lots and Porta Potties don't fit that plan. Currently this area is served by two large parking lots. Lad era Linda has plenty of parking adjacent to the trails and would require minimal modifications for restroom facilities to meet the Disabilities Act Abalone Cove parking lots meets the people's needs equally well on the ocean side of the trails. Perhaps the hours c;>f these two existing parking sites could be adjusted to the hours proposed at the Gateway Park? I know first hand how congested Del Cerro Park and Abalone Cove become during the Holidays and weekends. Between the existing parking lots in place there is already enough parking here for what the hill can handle. Personally, I think the parking lot is a bad idea with good intentions. I believe the cost to construct, maintain, and operate will add no real value to the Residents of Rancho Palos Verdes.

Sincerely and Thanks,


Nadia Carrasco From:

Nadia Carrasco Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:14 AM 'Dottie Hashizumi' RE: Crenshaw/Del Cerro

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Good Morning Ms. Hashizumi, Thank you for attending the Public Workshop yesterday night. As I had mentioned to you previously, your comments will be submitted to the City Council for consideration. Regards, Nadia Carrasco City of Rancho Palos Verdes Public Works Department Phone (310) 544-5333 Fax (310) 544-5292 From: Dottie Hashizumi [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:10 AM To: Nadia Carrasco Subject: FW: Crenshaw/Del Cerro

Hello Nadia, I went to the meeting tonight. I did not speak because, at that time, I didn't have anything to say. But several hours have passed and I have given great thought to the parking lot on PVDS. Although at the beginning of the presentation, I was 100% for the parking lot, now, late this evening, after giving all the speakers comments a lot of thought, I have changed my opinion and am not in favor of it. Here's why: 1. First and foremost, I do not now believe this will resolve or help our issues up here on Crenshaw for us Del Cerro residents. I feel the City may be doing this parking lot and "hoping" it will solve our Crenshaw/Del Cerro issues 2. At first, I believed the possibility of hikers/bikers wanting to go uphill and have an easier trip back downhill, therefore decreasing our traffic issues up here, however, now I feel this parking lot will only ADD more people, especially those from the San Pedro direction and those looking for FREE parking. 3. Why would we spend money to build something in a proven landslide area? Guess the City and we tax payers have so much money and just want to see what will the parking lot look like & have cost us after 10 years? 4. Why did we not anticipate possible problems with pedestrians and vehicles turning left to go back towards San Pedro from that parking lot ? Those things should have certainly been thought about/talked about, and included, in the prepared presentation tonight. One minute it sounds like we have money to throw away and build in a known slide area, and the next, hey, let's cut corners and see what accidents and injuries can occur. So, bottom line, what are you folks doing on Crenshaw Blvd in the immediate future for us Del Cerro residents ? 1


Regards, Dottie Lancaster Hashizumi Over 40 year resident of 22 Coveview Dr., RPV 90275 From: Nadia carrasco [mailto:[email protected]]


Wednesday, March OS, 2014 7:46 AM To: Dottie Hashizumi Subject: RE: Crenshaw/Del Cerro

Good Morning Ms. Hashizumi, Thank you for submitting your comments regarding the Gateway Parking Lot. We will be forwarding them to the City Council for consideration. Regards, Nadia Carrasco · Assistant Engineer City of Rancho Palos Verdes Public Works Department Phone (310) 544-5333 Fax (31 OJ 544-5292 From: Dottie Hashizumi [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:05 PM To: Nadia Carrasco Subject: Crenshaw/Del Cerro

Hello Nadia, So happy to hear about the future parking on PVDS. I so hope it is true that these hikers/bikers would rather park at the bottom and hike/bike up and then come back "down" to their vehicles. I am keeping that in my prayers every night! LOL I have been in my home here at Del Cerro for over 40 years. I have never feared being in a car accident ....... except now. When I am getting close to home from St. John Fisher until I get past Amber Sky, I am sooooo cautious. I have had to slam on my brakes when these inconsiderate fools open or leave open their vehicle doors while getting or putting something in the trunk or back of their truck and then on the other side of the street, the folks are doing the same thing. About 4 days ago, I stopped and yelled at two men whose pickup trucks were on opposite sides of Crenshaw, the driver's doors on both trucks were wide open and both men were at the back of their trucks getting their bikes out. I told them that Crenshaw is a PUBLIC STREET. MAYBE THEY SHOULD MOVE THEIR VEHICLES DOWN TO PCH AND DO THE SAME THING ...... SEE HOW LONG THEY WOULD HA VE DOORS ! One man, cussed me out saying it was none of my business and the other closed his big truck door so I could pass. It was up by the park where the street is narrowest. Also, the people walking their dogs, hello, don't let them wander with a long leash while you are walking down the middle of Crenshaw ..... 2


ITS A PUBLIC STREET! I almost ran over a little pooch that I_did not see because the woman had its leash loose about 12 feet. Anyhow, these trails are a NIGHTMARE. · Yes, I realize caps are "yelling". I don't mean to take it out on you, but by gosh, it is so very awful and something needs to be done to give us Del Cerro residents our rights again. Install parking meters and make some money for the city! Thank you for giving me the opportunity to say what's on my mind. Dottie Lancaster Hashizumi 22 Coveview Drive, RPV



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Ara Mihranian Monday, February 24, 2014 2:10 PM Nadia Carrasco RE: Gateway Parking Lot

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Ara Michael Mihranian Deputy Director of Community Development


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From: Nadia Carrasco Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 1:57 PM To: Ara Mihranian Subject: FW: Gateway Parking Lot

Ara, Please provide us with a response for the first two questions/comments below. Thanks, Nadia Carrasco City of Rancho Palos Verdes Public Works Department Phone (31 OJ 544-5333 Fax (31 OJ 544-5292 From: Nadia Carrasco Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:29 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: Gateway Parking Lot 1



Ron, I just received a phone call from Resident Don Schmidt (310)408-4855 regarding the proposed Gateway Parking Lot; these were his concerns and comments: •

Are we going to provide restroom facilities (portable potties perhaps)?, if so he is against it for it would be an eyesore. Yes. The City intends to relocate one of the existing two port-a-potties located on PVDS near the Smugglers Cove trail to the new parking lot. It will be set back away from the road and screened with a trellis, lattice and shrubs. What are going to be the parking hours and how we would enforce it? Specific hours will be set based on Staffing availability, who will be responsible for opening and closing the gate to the parking lot. Generally speaking, the hours may be similar to the City park hours which is one hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset to something less than that (i.e. 1Oam-5pm).

There are already two parking facilities in the area (Ladera Linda and Abalone Cove) therefore there is no need for a new one. These two parking lots are not in close proximity to the Portuguese Bend

Most of the people that will be enjoying the proposed parking lot and trails will be non-RPV residents; he believes is not fair that RPV money is being used to build and maintain a facility that will be enjoyed by others. It Is anticipated that residents from the east side of the City will use this parking lot, not to

Reserve Trailhead located off PVDS which is why the City is proposing a parking lot here.

mention other residents who reside throughout the City. Of course, the parking lot will also be available to non-res.idents since it will be a public parking lot.

Regards, Nadia Carrasco Assistant Engineer City of Rancho Palos Verdes Public Works Department 30940 Hawthorne Blvd. Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 Phone (31 OJ 544-5333 Fax (310) 544-5292



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Michael Throne Monday, February 24, 2014 8:03 AM Ron Dragoo; Nadia Carrasco Siamak Motahari FW: PV Drive South Parking Plan--Yay!

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FYI regarding your meeting next week.

From: Gary McCray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:36 PM To: Del Cerro HOA . Cc: Moonmist 05 Leimer; Oceanaire 59 Edgerton; Amber Sky 04 Luthi; Oceanaire 27 Paludi/Lebovitz; Oceanaire 62 Cicoria; Mark Martin; Amber Sky 10 Moore; All City Council Members Subject: Re: PV Drive South Parking Plan--Yay!

Del Cerro HOA, I applaud our city for coming up with this WIN-WIN plan. Remember folks, we need always to think of our entire, extended community, not just ourselves. I am sure this new lower PV drive parking lot will help a lot.

Gary McCray 16 Amber Sky Drive

On Feb 23, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Del Cerro HOA. wrote: Dear Del Cerro residents, Attached is a copy of a mailer sent to our neighborhood from the City of RP V's Public Works Director Michael Throne. It details the new Gateway Parking Lot Design Plan that should help with our overcrowding up at the top of the trail by providing parking at the bottom of the same trail.

Some relief is on the way! The Land Conservancy reps tell us that those who frequent the trail would rather park at the bottom and start the trail going up, so they can be walking/riding downhill at the end. We think that is a lovely idea. If you would like to weigh in on this plan, you can deliver your input to Nadia Carrasco via telephone number 310-544-5333 or by email to [email protected] 1


' Or come to the workshop March 5th 2014 at Point Vicente Interpretive Center at 6pm and talk to them personally. An email has also gone out to the neighbors along Oceanaire/Amber Sky/Crestwind/Seacrest who are most affected by the overflow parking of cars on the weekends and holidays by users of the trail. There is a program available to limit parking in front of those houses, but these neighbors need to weigh in on it and decide as a group if that is what they want to do. That's all~ contact any of your board members for more information. And if you think you would like to be a part of the board, please RSVP to this email and step up! We'd love to have you. This current board has been together for 2 years, with some members serving even longer than that, so maybe it's your turn to support the neighborhood you have chosen?



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Ron Dragoo Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:59 PM Jim Knight Carolynn Petru; Michael Throne; Ara Mihranian; Nadia Carrasco FW: PVDS Realignment

Councilman Knight, I'll noticed one of your questions was not addresses in the email I previously sent, sorry about that. The questions was: What is the purpose of the pipe gate (#5)? ffhis gate is to allow access into the area behind the gate by

Fire, Rangers, Contractors, PVPLC and other authorized folks/agencies. Hope these responses help, if they spark questions or if you need help negotiating plans give me a call, we'll be happy to assist any way we can. Best regards, Ron Dragoo, PE Senior Civil Engineer City of Rancho Palos Verdes 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 (310) 544-5252 From: Ron Dragoo Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:50 PM To: 'Jim Knight'

Cc: Carolynn Petru; Ara M ([email protected]); nadia C ([email protected]) Subject: RE: PVDS Realignment Councilman Knight, Thank you for taking the time to comment on the informational item sent out regarding the upcoming informational meeting. We reviewed your questions/concern and added responses (highlighted in hellow) to your original email below. Hope this helps and if you have additional questions/concerns don't hesitate to call/email. Best regards, Ron Dragoo, PE Senior Civil Engineer City of Rancho Palos Verdes 30940 Hawthorne Boulevard Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 (310) 544-5252 From: Jim Knight [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:08 PM To: Nadia Carrasco

Cc: Ron Dragoo; Carolynn Petru Subject: PVDS Realignment



Nadia, I got your notice about the upcoming meeting regarding the PVDS Realignment project and I had a few comments and questions. -What is the line of sight for exiting the parking lot heading east? This could be a dangerous situation if a driver cannot see oncoming traffic heading west. The line of sight appears adequate--however for the final alignment we will verify that it meets CaMUTCD requirements. Will there be an entrance lane onto PVDS for those crossing onto the highway and heading east? I see a 1O' strip that tappers off, I am not sure if this is an entrance lane. An entrance lane is not currently planned. -Are there any bathrooms or porta-potties planned for the parking lot? Yes. The City intends to relocate one of the existing two port-a-potties located on PVDS near the Smugglers Cove trail to the new parking lot. It will be set back away from the road and screened with a trellis, lattice and shrubs. -I need a better understanding of the elevations of the parking lot. The side section for the parking lot seems to show existing soil removal but, most of the area north of the road is below the road level. There is one naturally extended area that is about level with the road. Is this the location of the parking lot? Also, the side section seems to show the parking lot on a slope. Is that the plan? The illustration seems to show a level parking lot. The parking lot extends farther north than the existing graded area on site. The parking area will have a 2% slo e ~er ADA reguirements so it will reguire fill and the finished surface will be fairly level. -Is there any drainage planned for this area? This is a low point for the PB Landslide and we accumulation of water here can percolate into the subsurface. Drainage will be into the existing surface as currently exists. The _Rarking lot will be constructed of ermeable AC grindings, so no runoff is expected. -Where are the stairs to get down to the trails? No Are there going to be any ADA ramps? No What is the purpose of the pipe gate (#5)? -The plans show some marked parking stalls. I assume that that is just to count the number of spaces/area planned? Gravel instead of ashpalt is the right material but I assume you will not be painting stalls on that gravel. How was 40 spac€s determined? ffhe Number of parking stalls identified was based on the Development Code's parking stall standards at 9'X20'. It is unlikely that the stalls will be painted, however, the stalls can be delineated using chalk or similar material which will increase the ongoing maintenance costs. Further, signs can be posted alerting drivers to ark head-in. -Wheel stops. My personal preference are more natural boulders. There is a contractor in the PB Community, Mike Cooper, that has occasional boulders that can be stock piled by the city for future projects such as this. Agreed. City Staff has already put the word out to various contractors to secure boulders. As for tire stops, I am not sure if boulders are ideal since vehicles may be damaged while parking. -Entrance pipe gate (#4) -we need to think about control of this parking lot. We had a problem with a gate at the entrance to the Forrestal area where the gate was never locked because the city did not want to trap people who had not exited with their cars. The solution I proposed for that was exit only traffic spikes so that the entrance gate could be loeked. We are in the process of discussing this item. We will need an exit system that allows folks to leave at their leisure. A traffic spike system is a complete mechanical device, It would likely be a ropriate unless we get a fissure directly along or through the device. -Just a note on the picture; the two gentlemen hiking on the far right comer are going up a trail where the old Ishibashi home dead ends and does not enter the Preserve. The Preserv€ sign also is placed at this entrance. Again, love the natural boulders defining the Preserve entrance. Although the trail the two men are walking on is not in the Preserve at this point, the trail eventually connects to the Klondike Canyon Trail that connects to the Conqueror Trail. Both of these trails are in the Preserve. 2


' -I assume that no utilities are needed for this plan? This is true no utilities are planned. Thanks, Jim

Jim Knight Mayor Pro Tern RPV City Council

30940 Hawthorne Blvd . RPV, CA 90275 310/544-5207 cell 310/318-4290



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