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ENERAl SSEMBlY

A/AC.35/SR.150 6 July 1956 Original:

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COMMITTEE ON INFORMATION FROM NON-SELF-GOVERNING TEF.RTrt:\.l:t.l.t.B

Seventh Session SUMMARY RECORD OF THE HUNDRED AND FIFl'IETH MEETING Held at Headquarters, New York, on Friday, 18 May 1956, at 10.50 a.m. CONTENTS

Future work of the Committee (A/AC.35/L.233) (continued) General questions relating to the 3 1mmaries and analyses prepared by the Secretary-General additional to those treated under the previous items (A/3l05-3ll0, A/3110/Corr.l, A/3l1l and Add.l, A/3ll2 and Add.l and 2, A/3ll3 and Corr.l, A/3ll4 and Corr.l and Add.l, A/3115) (continued) Approval of ';;he report to be submitted to the General Assetr.bly: (a) Special report on educational conditions in Non-Self-Governing Territories (A/AC.35/L.234, A/AC.35/L.235, A/AC.35/L.236, A/AC.35/L.237, A/AC.35/L.238)

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PRESENT: Chairman:

Mr. ARENALES CATALAN

(Guta;tcmala)

Rapporteur:

Mr. VIXSEOOXSE

(Netherlands)

Members:

) Mr. CUTIS Mr. HAMIL'roN ) U MYA SEm Mr. LID YU-WAN ) ) Mr. YANG Mr. BARQUES Mr. KESTLER Mr. JAIPAL Mr. PACHACHI

Mr. GRADER Mr. THORP Mr. CALLE Y CALLE ~..r.

GIDDEN

Miss ARMSTRONG Mr. RIVAS Representatives of specialized agencies: Mr. SEIERSEN Secretariat:

Mr. BENSON

Mr. KUNST

Australia Burma

China France Guatemala India Iraq Netherlands New Zealand Peru United Kingdom of Great BritaD and Northern Ireland United states of America Venezuela International Labour Organisation Representative of the Secretary-General Secretary of the Committee

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rtrroRE ftlORK OF '!HE OOMMI'l'rEE (A/AC.35/L.233) (continued) The CHAIRMAN summed up the conclusions to be included in the Committee's ~port to the General Assembly. The Committee had decided to lay primary emphasis on economic conditions at its 1~57 session. It had taken note of the Secretariat working paper (A/AC.35/L.233) and had agreed that the Secretary-General, mcollaboration with the specialized agencies concerned, should prepare documentation mainly on the items suggested in the paper, taking into account the views and suggestions of members of the Co~ttee. At the ~958 session, special emphasis would be laid on social conditions, subject to any fresh views advanced during the 1957 sension. ~~.

RIVAS (Venezuela) observed that no referenc~ bad been made to the date of the 1957 session, although he had suggested that it should be held in May.

Mr. GIDDEN (Un1ted Kinedom) thought it would be unwise to mention any specific time for the 1957 session, in view of the uncertainty 0f the general programme of meetings as 0. reslllt of the 1956 session of the General Assembly being held later than usual. It would therefore be better if the only reference to the time factor in the report were the general statement made by the representative ot the Secretary-General. Mr. RIVAS (Venezuela) 'pointed out that the question of dates was very ~ortant for delegations which were members of the ~.~steeship Council but not ot the Committee. Items relating to Non-Self-Governing Territories, inclUding the Committee' s report, were usually placed at the beginning of the Fourth Committee" s agenda. Accordingly, if the Committee's session were held after the Council's session in JUly, it would be difficult for its report to be circulated in three official languages to the Government departmenws concerned in time for consideration at the twelfth session of the Assembly in September 1957. The report of the TrusteeShip Council could not be considered until the latter part of the General ~sembly session, owing to complications in connexion with hearings of petitionersj it therefore seemed logical to hold the Committee's session before that of the Council.

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Mr. GIDDEN (Un1~ed Kingdom) found the Venezuelan representative's arguments cogent but still thought that ~t would be premature to mention any date for the session. His delegation was inclined to favour a spring s~-:sion but considered that the matter should be left open, since the dates of the Council's 1957 sessions were not yet fixed. Mr. CUTTS (Australia) supported the United Kingdom representative's

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Mr. JAIPAL (India) said that, although for p~actical reasons his delegation might have a slight preference for an autumn session of the Committee, no firm expression of views could be made at that early stage. Further speculati~ was bound to lead to confusion, owing to the many imponderable factors involved. ~r.

BENSON (Secretariat) said that the Secretary-General felt that it was too early to establish a pattern of work for the Committee and the Council; the views expressed in the Committee wculd,however, be taken into account. At the request of Miss ARMSTFONG (United States of America), the CHAI~l said that the item would be left open pending a statement by the United States representative on the future work of the Committee. GENERAL QUESTIONS RELATING TO THE SUMMARIEf! AND ANALYSES PflliPARED BY THE SECRETARY-GENERAL ADDITIONAL 1l; THOSE TREATED UNDER THE PREVIOUS ITEMS (A/3l05-3ll0, A/3ll0/Corr.l, A/3lll a'ld Add.l, A/3ll2 and Add.l and 2, A/;113 and Corr.l, A/3ll4 and Corr.l and Add.l, A/3ll5)(continued) Mr. BENSON (Secre~ariat) said that, as printing costs increased in inverse ratio to the number of documents printed, the cost of the small number of summaries and analyses pUblished in French and Spanish was higt~r than that of the documents published in English. No decision to suspend the publication of printed summaries had yet been taken by the General Assembly but the question had been considered by the Publications BO£.rd, which had decided not to provide the .. . $8,000 requested by his Department for printing summaries. The reproduction by offset from fair copy of an average number of pages would cost $4,785; as the mimeographed version, now to be discontinued, would have cost $3,500, it could be said tb~t the actual outlay would be $4,785 less $3,500, i.e., $1,285, and the

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total saving $8,000 less $1,285, i.e., $6,715. As a slightly better quality paper than was now used would be required for the offset edition, the saving would finally amount to slightly less than that figure. Some delegations had wondered whether it would not be possible to effect the economy envisag ~ while at the same time maintaining the present distribution of documents. Every effort was made to see that the cost of printing the documents now published was as low as possible. They were ~rinted on inexpensive paper, with small margins, and in many cases were printed abroad. No decision on the method which should ~inally be adopted had yet been taken by the General Assembly. The Committee should bear in mind that the Secretary-General was constantly being urged to reduce administrative costs and that he was obliged to economize on what it~ms he could. He tad consulted the technical services of the Secretariat with regard to the possible publication of a compendium of General Assembly resolutions relating to the Non-Self-Governing Territories. Although there were some difficulties in the way, it was hoped that such a compendium could be made available in 1957. Mr. JAIPAL (India) said that if offset reproduction cost $4,785, as against the estimated $8,000 for printing in 1957, a saving of $3,215 would be effected, to which must be added the $3,500 which would be saved by discontin'ung the mimeographed summaries. He wondered whether the total saving of $6,715 was to be effected annually or over a three-year period. In any case, according to the revised figures, the saving was likely to be about $4,000 a year, which was out of proportion to the value of the service it was ~:!'Cr-:'fr,;;, to withdraw.

Mr. BENSON (Secretariat) said that the saving

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be effected in two years out of three, the summaries being printed every third year. The saving over the three-year period would therefore be between $12,000 and $1~,000.

Mr. RIVAS (Venezuela) said that documents reproduced by the offset process would be acceptabie provided that they were legible and that the number circu~tE'd was the same as at present. Mr. BENSON (Secretariat) said that the offset documents would not be put on sale and that therefore a smaller number would be printed. There was no suggestion, however, that the number supplied to libraries, non-governmental organizations and other non-United Nations bodies would be reduced.

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Mr. KESTLER (Guatemala) said that his delegation could not ngree to a reduction in the number of documents put on sale. Such a reduction cculd not be justified on any grounds when 125 million people in the Non-Self-Governing Territories were interested in the info~~tion they contained. It would adversely affect the work ot the Committee and be prejudicial to the interests of the Non-Selt-Governing Territories. He expressed the hope that no reduction would be made until the question ha . been thoroughly otudied by t.he Fifth and Sixth Committees and the General Assembly. APPROVAL OF TF.E REPORT TO EE SCEMrrrrED TO TEE GENERAL ASSEl-ffiLY: (a) SFECIAL REFCRT ON EDCCATICNAL CCNDITIC~S IN 7~~ NCN-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES (A/AC.35/L.234, A/AC.35/L.?35, A/AC.35/L.236, A/AC.35/L.237, A/AC.35/L.238) Mr. CUTTS (Australia), Chairman of the Sub-Committee on Education, introduc~a the Sub-Committee's report (A/AC.35/L.234). The report hod been adopted by the Sub-Committee without a vote or any dissent from its tel~. To that extent it represented a unanimously adopted document. There were, however, two qUB_.fications: firstly, some delegations had entered general reservations, which were not recorded, since no records were made of the Sub-Committee's proceedings; secondly, the document did not purport to be complete, section XIII having been adopted as a partial draft. At the time the Sub-Committee had ~ompleted its work, the question of international collaboration had not been fully debated in the Committee; the S'lb-Committec had consequently felt that it should be left open to delegations to introduce any ad.itional matter they felt necessary in that connexion. His own delegation had proposed one such addition, which appeared in document A/AC.35/L.235. The

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invited the Committee to conoider the report section

by section. Sections I to XI were adopted. The CHAIRMAN drew the Committee's attention to an Indian amendment to section XII, paragraph 78 (A/AC.35/L.236). In response to a suggestion by Mr. GIDtEN (United Kingdom), Mr. JAIPAL (India) agreed to replace the word "circumstances" by the word "cases". The amendment was adopted, with that modifi~ation. Section XII, as amended, was adopted.

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In connexion with section XIII, the CHAIRMAN drew the Committee's attention to the additional paragraphs proposed by the delegations of Australia (A/AC.35/L.235) and Guatemala (A/AC.35/L.238). Mr. RIVAS (Venezuela) regretted that the paragraph proposed by Australia referred to international co-operation only in terms of Article 73 d of the Charter. His delegation did not intend to submit any proposal or to ask for a vote but it would have liked to see a reference to Article 74 as well. Furthermore, it felt that the regional bodies would make a greater contribution to international collaboration if their membership were larger. The additional paragraph proposed by Australia (A!AC.35/L.235) was adopted. Mr. KESTLER (Guatemala) introduced the additional paragraph (A!AC.35!L.238) proposed by his delegation, which felt that the Committee should record the fact that the Indian Government had offered a number of scholarships to students fram Non-Selt-Governing Territories in compliance with General Assembly resolution 845 (IX). The additional paragraph proposed by Guatemala (A/AC.35/L.238) was adopted. Section XIII, as amended, was adopted. The report as a whole (A/AC.35/L.234), as amended, was adopted by 11 votes to none, with 2 abstentions.

Mr. CUTTS (Australia) explained that he had voted in favour of the report because his delegation found the bulk of it entirely satisfactory; none of the passages which seemed to diminish the authority of the document were sufficiently important to warrant an abstention. The competent Australian authorities would give the rE~crt due attention, regarding it, not9as a body of revealed truth, but as a sincere attempt to give an unbiased account of educational conditions in the Territories concerned. Mr. BARGUES (France), explaining his abstention, said that his delegation had noted that the repor~ before the Committee gave constant expression to the Commlttee's political proclivities, to which the French Government had always objected. In the circumstances, the French delegation had been unable to arprove the document without reservation. However, it recognized the high f:ltandard of the report in so far as IJurely technical matters

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Mr. JAIPAL (India) said that he had voted in favour of the report because it represented the consensus of opinion in the Committee, with which his delegation was largely in agreement. However, the latter thought that certain passages might jave been worded differently and certain matters treated in more detail. He also realized that the Indian delegation's views on all matters might not be generally acceptable and, in the circumstances, would reserve its right to comment on the report in the Fourth Committee.

Mr. VIXSEBOXSE (Netherlands) explained that he had voted in favour of the report because the few points that did not altogether meet with his ,.: E ._ . delegation's satisfaction did not seem to justify an abstention. He reserved the right to comment on the report in the Fourth Committee. Mr. RIVAS (Venezuela) said that he had voted in favour of the report because, although imperfect and even incomplete, it contained useful and concrete recommendations. He had considered proposing that the report should contain a separate paragraph giving the conclusions reached but in a spirit of conciliation ne had decided to submit a resolution to that effect in the Fourth Committee.

Mr. KESTLER (Guatemala) said that he had vo~ed for the report because his delegation considered it to be generally acceptable. He reserved the right to take up certain points in greater detail in the Fourth Committee. £MYA SEIN (Burma) reserved his delegation's position on the report in the Fourth Committee, although the document seemed to be generally satisfactory. Mr. KESTLER (Guatemala) and Mr. HAMILTON (Australia) introduced a four-Power draft resolution (A/AC.35/L.231) on the report of the Sub-Committee on educational conditions. The draft resolution was purely procedural and was intended to facilitate the work ot the General Assembly. The .joint draft resolution was approved unanimously. Mr. JAIPAL (India) ~aid a tribute to the e1.ucational experts, whose

contributions to the Committee's work had been most valuable. The Guatemalan delegation was to be congratulated on having prOVided an educational expert who had been able to elicit IDuch useful information fram the experts of the Administering Powers. The French delegation had provided the Committee with

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valuable assistance through the zealous work of Mr. Removille and the high quality of the contributions of Mr. Debayle, who had shown evidence of his real affection for Africa and the Africans. Finally, the Indian delegation deeply regretted that Professor Ward would not be attending any further sessions of the Committee, since he was retiring from Government service. Professo~ Ward had earned the Indian delegation's respect and affection; he belonged to the vanishing sp~cies of educators in the old tradition, who had done much more than governors and administrators towards realiZing the ideals of Chapter XI of the Charter. It had rigbtly been said that, while administrators made agitators of nationalists, educators made administrators of them. The Indian delegation wished Professor Ward all health and bappiness in the future. The meeting rose at 12.15 p.m.