Fundamentals of Fenestration
Finishes Meeting Doug Holmberg (Apogee), FSC Co-Chair, APG Steve Strawn (JELD-WEN), FSC Co-Chair, RPG 2017 AAMA Fall Conference Monday, October 16, 8:30-10:30 a.m. Tuesday, October 17, 3:30-5:00 p.m.
Meeting Commencement • Call to Order • Introduce Media and Outside Organization Representatives • Identify Any Topics to be Addressed in Members Only Session For reference: To join any groups discussed during this meeting session, log into the AAMA website and visit that committee’s or task group’s page to request to be added to the roster.
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AAMA Organizational Chart
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Voting Guidelines Finishes Steering Committee (FSC) Voting Members AMC Finishes Committee Carl Troiano (Trojan Powder Coating) – Chair Scott Condreay (Sapa Extrusions) – Vice-Chair FMC Finishes Committee Robert Plagemann (Tecton Products LLC) – Chair Kurt Wood (Arkema) – Vice Chair VMC Finishes Committee Skip Gregorevich (Kalcor Coatings) – Chair Bill Nowak (ColorCoat) – Vice Chair WCCMC Finishes Committee Mark Fortun (Endura) – WCCMC Representative Stacha Reed (Andersen) – Vice-Chair 4
Voting Guidelines
Ta s k G r o u p s U n d e r t h e F S C Yellow Badges – Architectural and Residential Products Groups Orange Badges – Architectural Products Group only Light Blue Badges – Residential Products Group only
See color bars on each slide:
For reference: – White (non-voting members except at regional level) – Green (industry organization, prospective member, press) – Pink (registered spouse) 5
Review of Minutes
Business of the Meeting D o u g H o l m b e rg ( A p o g e e ) , FS C C o - C h a i r, A P G S t e v e S t ra w n ( J E L D - W E N ) , FS C C o - C h a i r, R P G
Agenda Items • • • • • • •
Substrate Re-Finishing Feasibility Task Group Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review TG Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group Update on Film Adhesion (Cross Hatch) Revision Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group Finish-Specific Project Status Report New Business – Finish-related Issues Identified by Material Groups – Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) – Material Group Input to Clarify Priorities – Discuss defining corrosive environments 8
Substrate Re-Finishing Feasibility Task Group • Co-Chair: Bill Nowak (ColorCoat) – Residential • Co-Chair: Scott Condreay (Sapa Extrusions) – Architectural • Scope: Explore feasibility of developing a guidance document pertaining to field re-finishing of fenestration products.
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Recommendation to Disband • Discussions with paint manufacturers concluded that creating a refinishing specification is beyond AAMA’s scope • Issues that were identified include: • Biggest challenge: Preparation of the substrate considering possible pre-existing coatings needing to be removed – Creates too many variables; unable to address properly – Addressing any coating containing lead, or adjacent to the coating to be refinished, is beyond AAMA’s scope • Recommendation: To disband the task group as it is not feasible to create standards/specifications for refinishing Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
Substrate Re-Finishing Feasibility Task Group
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Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review Task Group • Co-Chair: Carl Troiano (Trojan Powder Coating) – Architectural • Co-Chair: Open – Residential (requesting a volunteer) • Scope: To review the effectiveness of the falling sand abrasion resistance test and determine any necessary revisions to the test method and/or required performance level.
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Background • ASTM D968 has several inherent shortcomings: – It is quite time consuming and labor intensive, modern paints require significant amounts of sand to abrade to substrate. – The requirement to abrade to 4 sq. mm substrate exposure is difficult to measure and can contribute to inconsistency. – There is great variability in sand morphology and few labs have the required sieves and sieve shaker to monitor granule size – Due to the large volumes of sand and high number of reservoir refills currently required to abrade to substrate, there is a the possibility of misaligning the panel and/or altering the sand stream and subsequent wear pattern
Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review
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Alternative Test Methods Discussion leader: Kurt Wood (Arkema) • Two suggested alternatives that address at least some of the identified issues: – As opposed to testing to exposed substrate, use a given volume of sand and measure reduced thickness compared to adjacent unabraded thickness, this data can be used in the formula in 8.6.1 to yield Abrasion Coefficient – Could use a modification of a Japanese automotive standard, JIS H8682-2, which uses air assisted velocity to propel the sand, and could use a one pass, finite amount of sand. As above, we could use the delta thickness to calculate Abrasion Coefficient.
Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review
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Analysis of Round Robin Testing Discussion leader: Kurt Wood (Arkema) Presentation of Data
Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review
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Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group • Co-Chairs: – David Harris (American Renolit) – Residential – Marco Patermann (Konrad Hornschuch) – Architectural • Scope: To set in process standards for third-party laminators.
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Committee Ballots • Balloted concurrently to the Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group, the AMC, FMC, VMC and WCCMC Finishes Committees and the Finishes Steering Committee • 7 comments submitted; resolved with one substantive change – Section 6.2.3.b – the 1st and 3rd bullets were in conflict – 1st bullet: bond integrity shall comply with requirements agreed upon by the laminator and manufacturer – 3rd bullet: there shall be no diminishing of the laminate bond integrity – TG agreed to delete the last bullet
• The substantive change is being re-balloted to the various finishes committees. If there are no comments, the entire document will move on to APG/RPG ballot. Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group
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Film Adhesion (Cross Hatch) Revision • AAMA finish standards reference ASTM D3359 for film adhesion testing, but originally specified tape no longer made • ASTM D3359-17 was published with the following language: – 6.3 Tape—25-mm (1.0-in.) wide transparent or semitransparent pressure-sensitive tape with an adhesive peel strength between 6.34 N/cm (58 oz/in.) and 7.00 N/cm (64 oz/in.), as tested in accordance with Test Method D3330/D3330M, Test Method A, (equivalent to PSTC 101) and utilizing a 90 second dwell time on a standard steel panel. – 6.3.1 Other tapes may be used by agreement between the parties involved.
• Per FSC direction, AAMA finish standards were editorially revised to reference the new ASTM D3359-17 For reference: ASTM D3359, Standard Test Methods for Rating Adhesion by Tape Test
Finishes Steering Committee
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Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group • Co-Chair: Sean Fowler (Q-Lab) – Residential • Co-Chair: Kurt Wood (Arkema) – Architectural • Scope: To identify an appropriate color space measurement to change to that correlates more closely to visual perception that includes a strategy and plan to complete this change that accounts for necessary transition time and other marketplace issues.
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Revisions to CMR-1 • To harmonize with the agreed upon FSC decisions: – AAMA documents must specify all CMR-1 parameters – Each Material Council specifies color measurements – AAMA documents may omit requirements, leaving it to users to decide on a project by project or substrate basis • Ex.: inclusion or exclusion of the specular component – It was additionally agreed to insert a note referencing the 2016 study to remind users of the documents that use of the Hunter color space has been validated by AAMA • Revisions being handled by Finishes Steering Committee For reference: CMR-1, Guidelines for Development of Color Measurement Requirements
Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group
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Revisions to CMR-1 • Successful FSC ballot (17-1054) of revised CMR-1 – One approve with comment vote submitted • Mark Fortun (Endura) – approve with comment – Section 1.1 - Add "ASTM" before "D2244" to be consistent with other references to ASTM standards. – Section 1.6 - Modify "However, independent color difference equations may be described in a standard provided they include information analogous to ASTM D2244." to "However, independent color difference equations other than those described in ASTM D2244 may be used provided they include information equivalent to ASTM D2244." Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group
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Color Space Study White Paper • Abstract created to propose paper for presentation at the American Coatings Conference – To be held in conjunction with the American Coatings Show, April 9-12 in Indianapolis • Accepted papers will be known in early November • Deadline for submission of papers is January 2018 • Draft paper to be reviewed by Color Space Task Group and FSC View White Paper Abstract
Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group
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Finish-Specific Project Status Report • Finish-Specific Project Status Report
Finishes Steering Committee
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New Business
New Finish-Related Issues Identified by Material Groups Discussion leaders: – Doug Holmberg (Apogee), APG Co-Chair – Steve Strawn (JELD-WEN), RPG Co-Chair
Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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A b ra s i o n R e s i s t a n c e ( Fa l l i n g S a n d ) TG M a te r i a l G r o u p I n p u t t o C l a r i f y P r i o r i t i e s
Discussion leader: Kurt Wood (Arkema)
Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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Certification of Coatings on Vinyl Profiles Work Group • Chair: Bill Nowak (ColorCoat) • Vice Chair: Skip Gregorevich (Kalcor Coatings) • Scope: To create a program for certifying coatings on vinyl profiles. Courtesy report to FSC Group officially reports to the Certification Policy Committee
New Business
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Defining the Issue • Currently coated vinyl profiles are tested to AAMA 613/614/615 and listed on the Verified Components List (VCL). • Each location applying paint is required to generate samples using production equipment on each unique vinyl compound. • Test reports are currently valid for 3 years. • Can cause a lot of redundant testing for coaters that use the same equipment and paints at multiple locations.
New Business: Certification of Coatings on Vinyl Profiles
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Summary of Progress • Concept is to replace verification with certification – Test each coating on each unique substrate using production equipment; base profile must be certified – Will apply to all locations using the same processes for coating vinyl – Recertification testing required every 5 years • Specific QMS requirements apply • Two unannounced inspections each year • Next steps: Send first draft of procedural guide to Work Group members for comment New Business: Certification of Coatings on Vinyl Profiles
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Defining Corrosive Environments • Open discussion item
Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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Form or Disband Committees/Task Groups • Requires motion, second and vote from Finishes Steering Committee members (see voting roster on slide 4) • Formation of task groups also requires: – Group name – Chair – Scope • Initial rosters are established for newly formed task groups via the yellow form to be circulated during the meeting and then posted in the AAMA Conference Registration area Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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Other New Business?
Committee/Task Group Work
Adjourn
Meeting Commencement • Call to Order • Introduce Media and Outside Organization Representatives • Identify Any Topics to be Addressed in Members Only Session For reference: To join any groups discussed during this meeting session, log into the AAMA website and visit that committee’s or task group’s page to request to be added to the roster.
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AAMA Organizational Chart
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Voting Guidelines Finishes Steering Committee (FSC) Voting Members AMC Finishes Committee Carl Troiano (Trojan Powder Coating) – Chair Scott Condreay (Sapa Extrusions) – Vice-Chair FMC Finishes Committee Robert Plagemann (Tecton Products LLC) – Chair Kurt Wood (Arkema) – Vice Chair VMC Finishes Committee Skip Gregorevich (Kalcor Coatings) – Chair Bill Nowak (ColorCoat) – Vice Chair WCCMC Finishes Committee Mark Fortun (Endura) – WCCMC Representative Stacha Reed (Andersen) – Vice-Chair 4
Voting Guidelines
Ta s k G r o u p s U n d e r t h e F S C Yellow Badges – Architectural and Residential Products Groups Orange Badges – Architectural Products Group only Light Blue Badges – Residential Products Group only
See color bars on each slide:
For reference: – White (non-voting members except at regional level) – Green (industry organization, prospective member, press) – Pink (registered spouse) 5
Review of Minutes
Business of the Meeting D o u g H o l m b e rg ( A p o g e e ) , FS C C o - C h a i r, A P G S t e v e S t ra w n ( J E L D - W E N ) , FS C C o - C h a i r, R P G
Agenda Items • • • • • • •
Substrate Re-Finishing Feasibility Task Group Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review TG Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group Update on Film Adhesion (Cross Hatch) Revision Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group Finish-Specific Project Status Report New Business – Finish-related Issues Identified by Material Groups – Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) – Material Group Input to Clarify Priorities – Discuss defining corrosive environments 8
Substrate Re-Finishing Feasibility Task Group • Co-Chair: Bill Nowak (ColorCoat) – Residential • Co-Chair: Scott Condreay (Sapa Extrusions) – Architectural • Scope: Explore feasibility of developing a guidance document pertaining to field re-finishing of fenestration products.
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Recommendation to Disband • Discussions with paint manufacturers concluded that creating a refinishing specification is beyond AAMA’s scope • Issues that were identified include: • Biggest challenge: Preparation of the substrate considering possible pre-existing coatings needing to be removed – Creates too many variables; unable to address properly – Addressing any coating containing lead, or adjacent to the coating to be refinished, is beyond AAMA’s scope • Recommendation: To disband the task group as it is not feasible to create standards/specifications for refinishing Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
Substrate Re-Finishing Feasibility Task Group
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Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review Task Group • Co-Chair: Carl Troiano (Trojan Powder Coating) – Architectural • Co-Chair: Open – Residential (requesting a volunteer) • Scope: To review the effectiveness of the falling sand abrasion resistance test and determine any necessary revisions to the test method and/or required performance level.
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Background • ASTM D968 has several inherent shortcomings: – It is quite time consuming and labor intensive, modern paints require significant amounts of sand to abrade to substrate. – The requirement to abrade to 4 sq. mm substrate exposure is difficult to measure and can contribute to inconsistency. – There is great variability in sand morphology and few labs have the required sieves and sieve shaker to monitor granule size – Due to the large volumes of sand and high number of reservoir refills currently required to abrade to substrate, there is a the possibility of misaligning the panel and/or altering the sand stream and subsequent wear pattern
Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review
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Alternative Test Methods Discussion leader: Kurt Wood (Arkema) • Two suggested alternatives that address at least some of the identified issues: – As opposed to testing to exposed substrate, use a given volume of sand and measure reduced thickness compared to adjacent unabraded thickness, this data can be used in the formula in 8.6.1 to yield Abrasion Coefficient – Could use a modification of a Japanese automotive standard, JIS H8682-2, which uses air assisted velocity to propel the sand, and could use a one pass, finite amount of sand. As above, we could use the delta thickness to calculate Abrasion Coefficient.
Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review
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Analysis of Round Robin Testing Discussion leader: Kurt Wood (Arkema) Presentation of Data
Abrasion Resistance (Falling Sand) Test Method Review
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Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group • Co-Chairs: – David Harris (American Renolit) – Residential – Marco Patermann (Konrad Hornschuch) – Architectural • Scope: To set in process standards for third-party laminators.
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Committee Ballots • Balloted concurrently to the Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group, the AMC, FMC, VMC and WCCMC Finishes Committees and the Finishes Steering Committee • 7 comments submitted; resolved with one substantive change – Section 6.2.3.b – the 1st and 3rd bullets were in conflict – 1st bullet: bond integrity shall comply with requirements agreed upon by the laminator and manufacturer – 3rd bullet: there shall be no diminishing of the laminate bond integrity – TG agreed to delete the last bullet
• The substantive change is being re-balloted to the various finishes committees. If there are no comments, the entire document will move on to APG/RPG ballot. Third Party Lamination Certification Task Group
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Film Adhesion (Cross Hatch) Revision • AAMA finish standards reference ASTM D3359 for film adhesion testing, but originally specified tape no longer made • ASTM D3359-17 was published with the following language: – 6.3 Tape—25-mm (1.0-in.) wide transparent or semitransparent pressure-sensitive tape with an adhesive peel strength between 6.34 N/cm (58 oz/in.) and 7.00 N/cm (64 oz/in.), as tested in accordance with Test Method D3330/D3330M, Test Method A, (equivalent to PSTC 101) and utilizing a 90 second dwell time on a standard steel panel. – 6.3.1 Other tapes may be used by agreement between the parties involved.
• Per FSC direction, AAMA finish standards were editorially revised to reference the new ASTM D3359-17 For reference: ASTM D3359, Standard Test Methods for Rating Adhesion by Tape Test
Finishes Steering Committee
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Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group • Co-Chair: Sean Fowler (Q-Lab) – Residential • Co-Chair: Kurt Wood (Arkema) – Architectural • Scope: To identify an appropriate color space measurement to change to that correlates more closely to visual perception that includes a strategy and plan to complete this change that accounts for necessary transition time and other marketplace issues.
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Revisions to CMR-1 • To harmonize with the agreed upon FSC decisions: – AAMA documents must specify all CMR-1 parameters – Each Material Council specifies color measurements – AAMA documents may omit requirements, leaving it to users to decide on a project by project or substrate basis • Ex.: inclusion or exclusion of the specular component – It was additionally agreed to insert a note referencing the 2016 study to remind users of the documents that use of the Hunter color space has been validated by AAMA • Revisions being handled by Finishes Steering Committee For reference: CMR-1, Guidelines for Development of Color Measurement Requirements
Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group
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Revisions to CMR-1 • Successful FSC ballot (17-1054) of revised CMR-1 – One approve with comment vote submitted • Mark Fortun (Endura) – approve with comment – Section 1.1 - Add "ASTM" before "D2244" to be consistent with other references to ASTM standards. – Section 1.6 - Modify "However, independent color difference equations may be described in a standard provided they include information analogous to ASTM D2244." to "However, independent color difference equations other than those described in ASTM D2244 may be used provided they include information equivalent to ASTM D2244." Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group
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Color Space Study White Paper • Abstract created to propose paper for presentation at the American Coatings Conference – To be held in conjunction with the American Coatings Show, April 9-12 in Indianapolis • Accepted papers will be known in early November • Deadline for submission of papers is January 2018 • Draft paper to be reviewed by Color Space Task Group and FSC View White Paper Abstract
Color Space (Hunter/CIELAB) Task Group
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Finish-Specific Project Status Report • Finish-Specific Project Status Report
Finishes Steering Committee
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New Business
New Finish-Related Issues Identified by Material Groups Discussion leaders: – Doug Holmberg (Apogee), APG Co-Chair – Steve Strawn (JELD-WEN), RPG Co-Chair
Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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A b ra s i o n R e s i s t a n c e ( Fa l l i n g S a n d ) TG M a te r i a l G r o u p I n p u t t o C l a r i f y P r i o r i t i e s
Discussion leader: Kurt Wood (Arkema)
Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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Certification of Coatings on Vinyl Profiles Work Group • Chair: Bill Nowak (ColorCoat) • Vice Chair: Skip Gregorevich (Kalcor Coatings) • Scope: To create a program for certifying coatings on vinyl profiles. Courtesy report to FSC Group officially reports to the Certification Policy Committee
New Business
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Defining the Issue • Currently coated vinyl profiles are tested to AAMA 613/614/615 and listed on the Verified Components List (VCL). • Each location applying paint is required to generate samples using production equipment on each unique vinyl compound. • Test reports are currently valid for 3 years. • Can cause a lot of redundant testing for coaters that use the same equipment and paints at multiple locations.
New Business: Certification of Coatings on Vinyl Profiles
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Summary of Progress • Concept is to replace verification with certification – Test each coating on each unique substrate using production equipment; base profile must be certified – Will apply to all locations using the same processes for coating vinyl – Recertification testing required every 5 years • Specific QMS requirements apply • Two unannounced inspections each year • Next steps: Send first draft of procedural guide to Work Group members for comment New Business: Certification of Coatings on Vinyl Profiles
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Defining Corrosive Environments • Open discussion item
Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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Form or Disband Committees/Task Groups • Requires motion, second and vote from Finishes Steering Committee members (see voting roster on slide 4) • Formation of task groups also requires: – Group name – Chair – Scope • Initial rosters are established for newly formed task groups via the yellow form to be circulated during the meeting and then posted in the AAMA Conference Registration area Finishes Steering Committee Voting Members Only
New Business
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Other New Business?
Committee/Task Group Work
Adjourn
