Submittal Data
Submittal Job Name: Location: Customer: Engineer:
One CSS 25B Technology Dr Mini Split Add Irvine Key Air Conditioning L&K Engineering
NSW Job #: Date:
98325 05-05-16
Submitted By:
Andrew McDonald
WE RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THE FOLLOWING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
Mini Split
Model FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU
Description 3 ton wall mounted mini split with condensate pump, and wired controller
H.V.A.C. Industry Leader in Air Moving Equipment & Supplies
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
BENEFITS Intelligent eye occupancy sensor Weekly timer for programmable comfort Low ambient heat operation down to 0° F Titanium apatite photocatalytic air purifying
INDOOR UNIT
OUTDOOR UNIT
This split system can be daisy chained with the other splits on the project to the BACnet gateway provided in the previous submittal for integration to the BMS.
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 1 of 4
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
SYSTEM PERFORMANCE Indoor Unit Model No.
FTXS36LVJU
Indoor Unit Name:
SKYAIR WALL MOUNTED
Outdoor Unit Model No.
RXS36LVJU
Outdoor Unit Name:
RXS36LVJU
Rated Cooling Capacity (Btu/hr):
36,000
Rated Cooling Conditions:
Indoor (°F DB/WB): 80 / 67 Ambient (°F DB/WB): 95 / 75
Sensible Capacity (Btu/hr):
22,390
Rated Piping Length(ft):
25
Max/Min Cooling Capacity (Btu/hr):
36,000 / 10,200
Rated Height Difference (ft):
65.60
Cooling Input Power (kW):
4.000
Rated Heating Conditions:
Indoor (°F DB/WB): 70 / 70 Ambient (°F DB/WB): 47 / 43
SEER (Non-Ducted/Ducted):
17.90 /
HSPF (Non-Ducted/Ducted):
8.3 /
EER (Non-Ducted/Ducted):
8.37 /
Rated Heating Capacity (Btu/hr):
38,000
Max/Min Heating Capacity (Btu/hr):
38,000 / 10,200
Heating Input Power (kW):
3.90
SYSTEM DETAILS Refrigerant Type:
R-410A
Cooling Operation Range (°F DB):
14 - 115
Holding Refrigerant Charge (lbs):
6.2
Heating Operation Range (°F WB):
5 - 75
Additional Charge (lb/ft):
0.03
Max. Pipe Length (Vertical) (ft):
66
Pre-charge Piping (Length) (ft):
33
Cooling Range w/Baffle (°F DB):
0 - 115
Max. Pipe Length (Total) (ft):
98
Heating Range w/Baffle (°F WB):
0 - 75
Max Height Separation (Ind to Ind ft):
66
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 2 of 4
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
INDOOR UNIT DETAILS Power Supply (V/Hz/Ph):
208-230 / 60 / 1
Airflow Rate (H/M/L/SL) (CFM):
Power Supply Connections:
See Outdoor Unit for Electrical Specs
Moisture Removal (Gal/hr):
770/635/519/473
Min. Circuit Amps MCA (A):
Gas Pipe Connection (inch):
5/8
Max Overcurrent Protection (MOP) (A):
Liquid Pipe Connection (inch):
3/8
Condensate Connection (inch):
5/8
Sound Pressure (H/M/L/SL) (dBA):
49/45/40/37
Sound Power Level (dBA):
65
Ext. Static Pressure (Rated/Max) (inWg):
/
Dimensions (HxWxD) (in):
13-3/8 x 47-1/4 x 9-7/16
Panel (HxWxD) (in): Net Weight (lb):
38
Panel Weight (lb):
DIMENSIONAL DRAWING - INDOOR UNIT
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 3 of 4
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
OUTDOOR UNIT DETAILS Power Supply (V/Hz/Ph):
208-230 / 60 / 1
Compressor Type:
Inverter
Power Supply Connections:
L1, L2, Ground
Capacity Control Range (%):
-
Min. Circuit Amps MCA (A):
19.50
Airflow Rate (H) (CFM):
2,627
Max Overcurrent Protection (MOP) (A):
20.00
Gas Pipe Connection (inch):
5/8
Liquid Pipe Connection (inch):
3/8
Max Starting Current MSC(A): Rated Load Amps RLA(A):
20.3
Sound Pressure (H) (dBA):
54
Dimensions (HxWxD) (in):
38-15/16 x 37 x 12-5/8
Sound Power Level (dBA):
68
Net Weight (lb):
179
DIMENSIONAL DRAWING - OUTDOOR UNIT
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 4 of 4
Si-30 N006_00 édition 14/40
mini condensate removal pump
one pump
www.sauermannpumps.us
Manufactured to ›› ›› ›› ›› ››
One pump suitable for ALL Daikin models from 0 to 42 kBtu/hr (12.5 kW – 3.5 tons*) • 5 gph
specification
Engineered in partnership Best-in-class reliability, manufactured specifically for condensate removal Patented 5 gph pump technology Specific wiring schematic for Daikin models (see reverse page) Complete with Drain Safe Device
• High capacity, less run time = RELIABILITY * The indicated 3.5 ton rating applies to approved Daikin models. The
performance rating of the Si-30 pump allows for use on units up to 5.6 tons
silent operation • High performance with low operating sound levels • Flexible & Easy to install and maintain • Ideal for Bedroom use
COMPLETE installation kit INCLUDED Everything you need for a complete installation • Unique self sealing discharge fitting included • Drain Safe Device Combines mechanical and gravity drain Allows condensates to clear efficiently, keeping the pump primed at all times.
DACA-CP3-1
Wiring instructions
Si-30
(230 V) Mini & Multi-Split, SKYAIR & QUATERNITY INDOOR UNITS
(Condenser)
2
Line 2
RED
3
Communication Wire
G
208 - 230 VAC
208 - 230 VAC
Green
Ground
Always refer to local code
Always refer to local code
Check if voltage is correct
Check if voltage is correct Do not break COMMUNICATION wire
L2 L1 Line 1 Line 2 Ground GREEN
BLACK
Models with WHITE jumper: SkyAir: (FAQ18, 24 PVJU) VRV: (FXAQ07, 09, 12, 18, 24 PVJU)
RED
Line 1
Si-30
(230V) VRV & SKYAIR SERIES INDOOR UNITS
BLACK
OUTDOOR UNIT
1
Wiring instructions
Models with GREEN jumper: SkyAir: (FHQ18, 24, 30 PVJU) (FHQ36, 42 MVJU) VRV: (FXHQ12, 24, 36 MVJU) (FXLQ12, 18, 24 MVJU) (FXNQ12, 18, 24 MVJU)
Models: (FTXS09, 12, 15, 18, 24, 30, 36 LVJU) (FTXN09, 12 KEVJU) (FTXN15, 18, 24 KVJU) (FTXG09, 12, 15 HVJU) (CTXS07 HVJU) (CTXS07 LVJU) (CTXS09,12 HVJU) (FDXS09, 12 DVJU) (FDXS09, 12 LVJU) (CDXS15, 18 LVJU) SkyAir: FTXS30, 36 LVJU
Power from O.D. Unit Terminal block
DACA-CP3-1
(230V) VRV & SKYAIR SERIES INDOOR UNITS
To pump power
I.D. unit Terminal block
INDOOR UNIT (Evaporator)
L1
BLU
L2
BRN
G
Pump wiring harness
Note : double insulated pump, no need for separated ground.
On indoor unit PCB
X8A
Green Jumper
I.D. unit Terminal block
INDOOR UNIT (Evaporator)
2 1
or X15A 2 1
White Jumper
To pump power
G 3
BLU
2
BRN
1
Note : double insulated pump, no need for separated ground.
YLW WHT
YLW
WH
Pump wiring harness
To safety shut off
(5A Max - NC contact volt-free)
To safety shut off
(5A Max - NC contact volt-free)
To Drain
To Drain Condensate pump
Condensate pump C
Air vent
Air vent
C
Condensate pump detection line
NC
Condensate drain hose from indoor unit
Detection unit
Condensate pump detection line
NC
Clear condensate hose: 1/4" vinyl tubing
Condensate drain hose from indoor unit
Detection unit
Clear condensate hose: 1/4" vinyl tubing
Submittal Data: BRC944B2 RA & RA-Multi Wired Controller
Job Name: Purchaser: Engineer: Submitted To: Submitted By: Unit Designation: Schedule #:
Location:
For: Reference Date: Model No.:
Approval
Construction
For use with the following Daikin RA & RA-Multi Indoor Models: FDXS Slim Duct & CTXS / FTXS Wall Mount For use with the following Daikin RA & RA-Multi Outdoor Models: RX Std. Efficiency, RXS High Efficiency, 2MXS & 4MXS
FEATURES / BENEFITS • Includes 8m (26ft) of cable • Built in one time or daily timer functionality with up to 2 timer actions per day
• LCD lets you display set point temperature in either °F or °C units in 1 degree increments
• Monitors room temperature and preset temperature by microcomputer and can select cool or heat operation modes automatically based on the set-point requirement
• Selectable auto / cool / heat / dry operation modes with adjustable temperature and airflow rates
• Approximately two hour battery backup • Required remote control adapter PCB included • Controller can be used in conjunction with the factory supplied standard wireless remote controller
Remote Controller Functions
OPERATION
MONITORING
SCHEDULING
Start / Stop Operation Mode Temperature Setting 64°F – 90°F Set Point Range Fan Speed Airflow Direction Status Operation Mode Temperature Setting Fan Speed Airflow Direction One Time Timer Daily Timer
TYPE
CABLE SPECIFICATIONS 4-wire sheathed vinyl cable
TOTAL LENGTH
BRCW901A08 – Approx. 8m (26ft)
D a i k i n AC ( Am e r i c a s ) , I n c . ♦ 1 6 4 5 W a l l a c e D r i ve – S u i t e 1 1 0 ♦ C a r r o l l t o n , T X 7 5 0 0 6 SDS BRC944B2 10-08
www.daikinac.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations)
One CSS 25B Technology Dr Mini Split Add Irvine Key Air Conditioning L&K Engineering
NSW Job #: Date:
98325 05-05-16
Submitted By:
Andrew McDonald
WE RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THE FOLLOWING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
Mini Split
Model FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU
Description 3 ton wall mounted mini split with condensate pump, and wired controller
H.V.A.C. Industry Leader in Air Moving Equipment & Supplies
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
BENEFITS Intelligent eye occupancy sensor Weekly timer for programmable comfort Low ambient heat operation down to 0° F Titanium apatite photocatalytic air purifying
INDOOR UNIT
OUTDOOR UNIT
This split system can be daisy chained with the other splits on the project to the BACnet gateway provided in the previous submittal for integration to the BMS.
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 1 of 4
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
SYSTEM PERFORMANCE Indoor Unit Model No.
FTXS36LVJU
Indoor Unit Name:
SKYAIR WALL MOUNTED
Outdoor Unit Model No.
RXS36LVJU
Outdoor Unit Name:
RXS36LVJU
Rated Cooling Capacity (Btu/hr):
36,000
Rated Cooling Conditions:
Indoor (°F DB/WB): 80 / 67 Ambient (°F DB/WB): 95 / 75
Sensible Capacity (Btu/hr):
22,390
Rated Piping Length(ft):
25
Max/Min Cooling Capacity (Btu/hr):
36,000 / 10,200
Rated Height Difference (ft):
65.60
Cooling Input Power (kW):
4.000
Rated Heating Conditions:
Indoor (°F DB/WB): 70 / 70 Ambient (°F DB/WB): 47 / 43
SEER (Non-Ducted/Ducted):
17.90 /
HSPF (Non-Ducted/Ducted):
8.3 /
EER (Non-Ducted/Ducted):
8.37 /
Rated Heating Capacity (Btu/hr):
38,000
Max/Min Heating Capacity (Btu/hr):
38,000 / 10,200
Heating Input Power (kW):
3.90
SYSTEM DETAILS Refrigerant Type:
R-410A
Cooling Operation Range (°F DB):
14 - 115
Holding Refrigerant Charge (lbs):
6.2
Heating Operation Range (°F WB):
5 - 75
Additional Charge (lb/ft):
0.03
Max. Pipe Length (Vertical) (ft):
66
Pre-charge Piping (Length) (ft):
33
Cooling Range w/Baffle (°F DB):
0 - 115
Max. Pipe Length (Total) (ft):
98
Heating Range w/Baffle (°F WB):
0 - 75
Max Height Separation (Ind to Ind ft):
66
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 2 of 4
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
INDOOR UNIT DETAILS Power Supply (V/Hz/Ph):
208-230 / 60 / 1
Airflow Rate (H/M/L/SL) (CFM):
Power Supply Connections:
See Outdoor Unit for Electrical Specs
Moisture Removal (Gal/hr):
770/635/519/473
Min. Circuit Amps MCA (A):
Gas Pipe Connection (inch):
5/8
Max Overcurrent Protection (MOP) (A):
Liquid Pipe Connection (inch):
3/8
Condensate Connection (inch):
5/8
Sound Pressure (H/M/L/SL) (dBA):
49/45/40/37
Sound Power Level (dBA):
65
Ext. Static Pressure (Rated/Max) (inWg):
/
Dimensions (HxWxD) (in):
13-3/8 x 47-1/4 x 9-7/16
Panel (HxWxD) (in): Net Weight (lb):
38
Panel Weight (lb):
DIMENSIONAL DRAWING - INDOOR UNIT
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 3 of 4
Submittal Data Sheet 3.0-Ton Wall Mounted Unit - FTXS36LVJURXS36LVJU Project: One CSS 25B Technology Dr Submitted by: Michael Fontaine of NORMAN S WRIGHT CLIMATEC MECH EQUIP on 5/5/2016 Submitted to: No Engineer Name Specified
OUTDOOR UNIT DETAILS Power Supply (V/Hz/Ph):
208-230 / 60 / 1
Compressor Type:
Inverter
Power Supply Connections:
L1, L2, Ground
Capacity Control Range (%):
-
Min. Circuit Amps MCA (A):
19.50
Airflow Rate (H) (CFM):
2,627
Max Overcurrent Protection (MOP) (A):
20.00
Gas Pipe Connection (inch):
5/8
Liquid Pipe Connection (inch):
3/8
Max Starting Current MSC(A): Rated Load Amps RLA(A):
20.3
Sound Pressure (H) (dBA):
54
Dimensions (HxWxD) (in):
38-15/16 x 37 x 12-5/8
Sound Power Level (dBA):
68
Net Weight (lb):
179
DIMENSIONAL DRAWING - OUTDOOR UNIT
Daikin City Generated Submittal Data
Daikin North America LLC, 5151 San Felipe, Suite 500, Houston, TX, 77056
www.daikinac.com www.daikincomfort.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations) Page 4 of 4
Si-30 N006_00 édition 14/40
mini condensate removal pump
one pump
www.sauermannpumps.us
Manufactured to ›› ›› ›› ›› ››
One pump suitable for ALL Daikin models from 0 to 42 kBtu/hr (12.5 kW – 3.5 tons*) • 5 gph
specification
Engineered in partnership Best-in-class reliability, manufactured specifically for condensate removal Patented 5 gph pump technology Specific wiring schematic for Daikin models (see reverse page) Complete with Drain Safe Device
• High capacity, less run time = RELIABILITY * The indicated 3.5 ton rating applies to approved Daikin models. The
performance rating of the Si-30 pump allows for use on units up to 5.6 tons
silent operation • High performance with low operating sound levels • Flexible & Easy to install and maintain • Ideal for Bedroom use
COMPLETE installation kit INCLUDED Everything you need for a complete installation • Unique self sealing discharge fitting included • Drain Safe Device Combines mechanical and gravity drain Allows condensates to clear efficiently, keeping the pump primed at all times.
DACA-CP3-1
Wiring instructions
Si-30
(230 V) Mini & Multi-Split, SKYAIR & QUATERNITY INDOOR UNITS
(Condenser)
2
Line 2
RED
3
Communication Wire
G
208 - 230 VAC
208 - 230 VAC
Green
Ground
Always refer to local code
Always refer to local code
Check if voltage is correct
Check if voltage is correct Do not break COMMUNICATION wire
L2 L1 Line 1 Line 2 Ground GREEN
BLACK
Models with WHITE jumper: SkyAir: (FAQ18, 24 PVJU) VRV: (FXAQ07, 09, 12, 18, 24 PVJU)
RED
Line 1
Si-30
(230V) VRV & SKYAIR SERIES INDOOR UNITS
BLACK
OUTDOOR UNIT
1
Wiring instructions
Models with GREEN jumper: SkyAir: (FHQ18, 24, 30 PVJU) (FHQ36, 42 MVJU) VRV: (FXHQ12, 24, 36 MVJU) (FXLQ12, 18, 24 MVJU) (FXNQ12, 18, 24 MVJU)
Models: (FTXS09, 12, 15, 18, 24, 30, 36 LVJU) (FTXN09, 12 KEVJU) (FTXN15, 18, 24 KVJU) (FTXG09, 12, 15 HVJU) (CTXS07 HVJU) (CTXS07 LVJU) (CTXS09,12 HVJU) (FDXS09, 12 DVJU) (FDXS09, 12 LVJU) (CDXS15, 18 LVJU) SkyAir: FTXS30, 36 LVJU
Power from O.D. Unit Terminal block
DACA-CP3-1
(230V) VRV & SKYAIR SERIES INDOOR UNITS
To pump power
I.D. unit Terminal block
INDOOR UNIT (Evaporator)
L1
BLU
L2
BRN
G
Pump wiring harness
Note : double insulated pump, no need for separated ground.
On indoor unit PCB
X8A
Green Jumper
I.D. unit Terminal block
INDOOR UNIT (Evaporator)
2 1
or X15A 2 1
White Jumper
To pump power
G 3
BLU
2
BRN
1
Note : double insulated pump, no need for separated ground.
YLW WHT
YLW
WH
Pump wiring harness
To safety shut off
(5A Max - NC contact volt-free)
To safety shut off
(5A Max - NC contact volt-free)
To Drain
To Drain Condensate pump
Condensate pump C
Air vent
Air vent
C
Condensate pump detection line
NC
Condensate drain hose from indoor unit
Detection unit
Condensate pump detection line
NC
Clear condensate hose: 1/4" vinyl tubing
Condensate drain hose from indoor unit
Detection unit
Clear condensate hose: 1/4" vinyl tubing
Submittal Data: BRC944B2 RA & RA-Multi Wired Controller
Job Name: Purchaser: Engineer: Submitted To: Submitted By: Unit Designation: Schedule #:
Location:
For: Reference Date: Model No.:
Approval
Construction
For use with the following Daikin RA & RA-Multi Indoor Models: FDXS Slim Duct & CTXS / FTXS Wall Mount For use with the following Daikin RA & RA-Multi Outdoor Models: RX Std. Efficiency, RXS High Efficiency, 2MXS & 4MXS
FEATURES / BENEFITS • Includes 8m (26ft) of cable • Built in one time or daily timer functionality with up to 2 timer actions per day
• LCD lets you display set point temperature in either °F or °C units in 1 degree increments
• Monitors room temperature and preset temperature by microcomputer and can select cool or heat operation modes automatically based on the set-point requirement
• Selectable auto / cool / heat / dry operation modes with adjustable temperature and airflow rates
• Approximately two hour battery backup • Required remote control adapter PCB included • Controller can be used in conjunction with the factory supplied standard wireless remote controller
Remote Controller Functions
OPERATION
MONITORING
SCHEDULING
Start / Stop Operation Mode Temperature Setting 64°F – 90°F Set Point Range Fan Speed Airflow Direction Status Operation Mode Temperature Setting Fan Speed Airflow Direction One Time Timer Daily Timer
TYPE
CABLE SPECIFICATIONS 4-wire sheathed vinyl cable
TOTAL LENGTH
BRCW901A08 – Approx. 8m (26ft)
D a i k i n AC ( Am e r i c a s ) , I n c . ♦ 1 6 4 5 W a l l a c e D r i ve – S u i t e 1 1 0 ♦ C a r r o l l t o n , T X 7 5 0 0 6 SDS BRC944B2 10-08
www.daikinac.com
(Daikin's products are subject to continuous improvements. Daikin reserves the right to modify product design, specifications and information in this data sheet without notice and without incurring any obligations)
